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Snowfall Totals (2016-2017 Season), thru 02-16-17
from WIXT CH 9, Syracuse
February 26 thru March 4, 2017
from WIXT CH 9, Syracuse
NOTE: Click on "WIXT" or "Weather Channel" link at right for weather details.
2016 - 2017 Season . . .
PLEASE NOTE!! Trail advisories on this page refer ONLY to the T.C. Riders trail system.
Conditions in Lewis County and on the north "Hill" are often markedly different from
conditions in the Camden area of Oneida County. For information on conditions north of
Camden, contact a club that maintains trails in that area or a local Tug Hill business.
Sunday, February 26, 2017
More Biblical Rains. Warm temps. These temps with the rain has washed out the trails in many sections.
Snow bridges have failed, trail edges will erode more and continue to collapse.
Grooming suspended. Outlook for more grooming is dark indeed. Looks like spring is here.
CLICK for the Accuweather Forecast.
NORTH SECTION (north of the powerline and Florence / 46 Corners area)
Watch for springtime hazards. Trails are in really poor condition.
CLICK HERE for Oko's trail report
SOUTH SECTION (south of the powerline and Camden area and C-4M)
Trails CLOSED in Camden and C-4M to Williamstown. Everything is mud and water.
REMEMBER: The Village of Camden allows snowmobiles on all streets except the NYS Routes 13 & 69.
Please keep your speed safe and reasonable (SLOW!) and yield the right-of-way to all traffic and all pedestrians
everywhere and all the time.
AND STAY OFF THE SIDEWALKS! We have had complaints of sleds on the sidewalks and on people's yards.
If this continues we may very well loose the privilege of riding in the village. We understand that the streets
are often bare when there is adequate snow coverage on the sidewalks. We understand that the sidewalks are often
the only way to avoid NYS routes 13 & 69. But that is what we have to live with or not have any privilege at all
of riding in the village. In a normal winter with regular snowfall rather than regular rainstorms,
using the streets will not be a major problem.
CLICK HERE for 'UPSTATE SNOW.COM'
CLICK HERE for Tug Hill Web Cams
CLICK HERE for 'www.TrailConditions.com'
CLICK HERE for Camden Weather Forecast (The Weather Channel)
CLICK HERE for a live WebCam in Camden, NY
CLICK HERE for 'www.SnowmobileAmerica.com'
CLICK HERE for Jimapco Trail Map
CLICK HERE for the NY Snowmobile Web Map
CLICK HERE for Mohawk Valley GIS
NWS (NERFC) SNOW MAPS
The Northeast River Forecast Service (NERFC) "Snow Page" for the Northeast Region has
links to numerous maps of interest.  If you're planning
a snowmobile trip in the northeast, these snow maps may be helpful.
NWS Snow Maps
Lake Ontario Surface Temp
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NOTE: The 46 Corners area usually offers pretty good early & late season riding. From Hanifin Corners
[aka Mohawk Containers] it is a straight shot to Swancott Mill and Highmarket. For those not
familiar with Hanifin Corners, here's the map to help get you there. Park on the side of the road as
the blue line & stay away from the corner.
Directions to Snowmobile Trailer Parking Area at Camden DPW (1 3rd St., Camden):
Arriving in Camden via:
NY69 from the east (Rome), turn left on 3rd St. (by churches)
NY69 from the west (Parish), go thru traffic light, turn right on 3rd St.
NY13 from the north (Pulaski), after the second traffic light, turn left on Mechanic St. (by Pizza Plus)
NY13 from the south (Canastota), cross the bridge, then turn right on Mechanic St.
At the bottom of the hill is the DPW Garage. Stay to the RIGHT of the building, then proceed to your left
behind the building to the snowmobile trailer parking area. Please avoid parking immediately behind the DPW building
unless the snowmobile trailer parking area is full.
NOTE: This parking area is lighted and police patrolled.
Directions to Downtown Area from the snowmobile trail:
Go thru the DPW parking area, proceed behind the DPW building, then straight up
Mechanic St. shown on the right side of the picture (pizza & two gas stations available) -or-
For "off-street" snowmobile parking, turn right on 3rd St. in front of the DPW building, then left on Miner Ave.
Just before the traffic light, turn right into the village parking lot.
Most businesses have access using their back doors to the parking lot.
For a map of Camden, click here.
Camden - Williamstown Corridor Trail C-4M
Click Here for C-4M story in pictures.
This new trail makes the Village of Camden
accessible to many more riders and changes the traffic flow on our entire system. Follow the signs
to Downtown Camden. Good places to eat. Plenty of choices for fuel.
Ride right to the back of the Main Street retail stores and the ATM.
Coming from Williamstown on C-4M, there are two ways to get to Downtown Camden:
The shorter way (about 1.4 miles) is to cross Mill St. and follow the edge of Liberty St., turn left on Railroad St.,
cross NY 13 (Sunoco gas station will be across NY 13 just to the left) , turn right to pass in
front of the Elementary School (do NOT use the school driveway), join Empey Ave., then immediately
turn right onto 2nd St., cross Church St. (NY 69), turn right on South Park St. and that puts you
at the parking lot for Main St. The downside to this route is the amount of street riding.
(Trails as shown on these maps are only approximate - not GPS data.)
The longer way (about 8.5 miles) is via C-4M, C-4i, & S-46B. Turn left on Mill St., then left on the old
railroad bed, follow C-4M to the junction of C-4i on Jones Rd.,
turn right up the hill, then follow C-4i to S-46B (JCT#122). Follow S-46B to Camden DPW, then via
If you have any suggestions for trail improvement, use the e-mail link on this website.
And, if you have any compliments or complaints, send those along as well.
Camden - Williamstown Trail
Here's how to get there: Use main corridor C-4i from Taberg or from 46 Corners.
Just north of Camden
on C-4i is JCT 121 (old designation) on Jones Road - that's the beginning
of C-4M (previously S-46). It's approx 11 miles from (old) JCT121 to Westdale,
Then another 5 miles to Williamstown via the old railroad bed.
There is one section of road to run (Curtiss & Rowell)
that is about 1 mile. We are working with landowners to eliminate it, but right now that's the way it is.
Village of Camden - Snowmobile Friendly!
The bridge in Johnson Park (pictured above) provides access to downtown Camden via Secondary
Trail S-46B (connect from Corridor Trails C-4i & C-4M). Snowmobile Trailer parking is available
behind the Camden DPW garage and sleds have corridor trail access over this bridge.
Camden is a "snowmobile friendly" village - the only downtown area
on Tug Hill accessible from the NYS Corridor Trails. All village streets are open to
snowmobile traffic with the exception of NY Routes 13 & 69. We can keep the streets open by riding
slowly and carefully in the village,
yielding the right-of-way to all traffic and pedestrians. It is very important to limit noise -
all village areas are very noise sensitive. Let's not loose this valuable downtown resource through
careless speed and noise.
A NOTE ON NOISE . . . If any of us had to name just one threat to our trail
system, we probably could agree it would be NOISE. Sleds have gotten quiet in recent years, unless the exhaust is modified
for performance which usually means more noise. Law enforcement is writing tickets for modified
exhaust. Many spots on our trail system are "Noise Sensitive." Unfortunately, if the landowners
close the trail at any of those points, we probably could not work out a re-route. It does
not take real brains to figure out where noise is a problem. If you are in a residential area, then
noise is a real problem. And keep in mind that a loud exhaust is heard for great distance so
just because it seems rural, we know you are there.
TRAIL COMMENTS & UPDATES
. . . for 2015 - 2016 Season.
87 & 91 octane is available in Camden @ FASTRAC. 91 octane is available @ the COUNTRY STORE (Sunoco)
& BYRNE DAIRY.
CORRIDOR TRAIL (C-4M) - CAMDEN TO WILLIAMSTOWN
There is a new house on Lover's Lane in Camden. Westbound, Continue past the house for a short distance,
then turn right into the field.
Westbound in the Westdale area, the trail now turns right off of Curtiss Rd onto Rowell Rd.
Proceed 1/2 mile to the Power Line. Turn left onto Power Line and you are on the trail.
Eastbound in the Westdale area, the trail now exits the Power Line onto Rowell Rd. Turn right.
Proceed 1/2 mile to Curtiss Rd. Turn left onto Curtiss Rd.
Proceed 1/2 mile, turn right, and you are on the trail.
WOLCOTT HILL ROAD
This road crossing is a very sensitive residential area and actually uses
the neighbors’ yards. Stay in the corridor and be alert for children playing
in the yards. SLOW and QUIET in this area, please. And STAY ON THE TRAIL!!
TRAIL FROM THE LEGION to THE GRAPE 'n' GROG
This trail (S-46B) crosses NY Rte 69 to the Grape 'n' Grog.
This is a VERY busy highway!
The bridge in Johnson Park connects this trail (S-46B) to the Camden DPW lot which is
open for trailer parking. All village streets (EXCEPT State highways!) are
open to snowmobiles making "Downtown Camden" snowmobile accessible .
Please ride responsibly.
HANIFIN CORNERS (aka MOHAWK CONTAINERS)
When parking at Hanifin Corners (this is 1 mile south of 46 Corners),
be sure to obey the "No Parking Here to Corner" advisory signs.
Law Enforcement has issued tickets for parking beyond these signs.
Please, as always, honor the "No Snowmobiles" signs in the neighbors' yards. If there are no signs, please
stay out of the yards anyway.
THOMSON CORNERS ROAD CROSSING
This is a VERY noise-sensitive area. Residents at the crossing ask that sleds not park at the crossing
and engage in loud conversation or leave motors running. Noise is the leading complaint against our sport.
Let's not lose a trail for something that is entirely avoidable.
FLORENCE - OSCEOLA ROAD
Absolutely and without exceptions or lame excuses,
Respect "NO SNOWMOBILES" and "STAY ON TRAIL" signs. Failure to comply will result in loss of the trail.
This would be BAD NEWS! Sleds would have to use the highway to connect to the Redfield trail. It is not
certain that Oneida County would open the highway for snowmobiles to connect to the trail.
T.C. Riders Snowmobile Club
We take this opportunity to say “Thank you” to all of our members. T.C. Riders is
committed to maintaining for our members and guests the best trail system in NYS.
We welcome your comments and suggestions. Use the convenient e-mail link at the
top of each web page.
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Rules of the Trail
||NYS law requires
all snowmobiles to
yield the right-of-way to the groomer.
When overtaking the groomer from behind, always
wait for the groomer to stop before you pass.
If you encounter hazardous trail conditions,
flag down the groomer and advise the groomer operator, or . . .|
You can report trail conditions/hazards to:
Ted Gay: 315-271-7818
John Seward: 315-335-2559
Trail comments, suggestions, and advisories
are always welcome.
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Trailer Parking Sites
(1) Camden DPW Garage, Corner of 3rd & Mechanic Street **
(2) American Legion, Moran Post Road, Camden ***
(3) Grape 'n' Grog, NY Rte 69 (east), Camden -weekdays only!!
(4) Florence Hotel, Downtown Florence.
** NOTE: Parking at the Camden DPW has direct trail access to
Corridors 4i & 4M via the bridge in Johnson Park.
*** NOTE: Park behind the Legion toward the rear. Be careful not
the snowmobile trail.
These businesses plow the parking lots at their own expense. Help keep this critical
service to our sport by supporting the business where you park.
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